Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/06/2000 02:08 PM House RES

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HB 344 - DEPT NAT RES & AK HARD ROCK LAND EXCHANGE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2045                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK announced that the  next order of business would be                                                              
HOUSE BILL  NO. 344, "An Act  authorizing a land  exchange between                                                              
the Department of Natural Resources and Alaska Hard Rock, Inc.;                                                                 
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2107                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JIM STRATTON, Director, Division of Parks & Outdoor Recreation,                                                                 
Department of Natural Resources, testified via teleconference                                                                   
from Anchorage.  He stated:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     For   those  of   you  that   are   not  familiar   with                                                                   
     Independence  Mine State Historical  Park, it's  located                                                                   
     about 90 minutes  from Anchorage, up past  Palmer in the                                                                   
     Hatcher Pass  region.  It's a historic  mining operation                                                                   
     that was  closed down during  World War II, and  it came                                                                   
     to "Parks"  as a state  historical park from  the mining                                                                   
     interests in about 1980.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Independence  Mine  State  Historical   Park  has  about                                                                   
     52,000  visits a  year; it's  road-accessible, and  it's                                                                   
     accessible  year-round when  the snow  is plowed in  the                                                                   
     winter,  and it's  near  the new  proposed  ski area  at                                                                   
     Hatcher Pass.   So, we're talking  about a park  that is                                                                   
     already   a  well-identified   and   well-used   visitor                                                                   
     destination.  It is one of the  most significant tourist                                                                   
     attractions for  the [Matanuska-Susitna] Borough,  as it                                                                   
     sits on  one of the few  roads off of the  major highway                                                                   
     system,  and provides  Alaskans  and  visitors alike  to                                                                   
     drive above treeline for hiking  and historical tours in                                                                   
     the summer and skiing and snowmobiling in the winter.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  main  attraction at  the  park are  the  historical                                                                   
     mining  structures  and  the  beginning of  one  of  the                                                                   
     mining tunnels that goes into  the side of the mountain.                                                                   
     But  maintaining  these  historical  buildings  is  very                                                                   
     expensive,  and we are  not able to  do that, given  our                                                                   
     current  capital authorization.   So,  we held a  public                                                                   
     meeting  in March  of '97  to discuss  options with  the                                                                   
     community  for   how  we  could  adaptively   reuse  the                                                                   
     buildings  at  Independence Mine  in  a way  that  would                                                                   
     provide  an income  flow to  ensure  that the  buildings                                                                   
     would remain standing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Through  that meeting  we found that  adaptive reuse  of                                                                   
     the structures  as a visitor destination  was acceptable                                                                   
     by   everybody  who   was   there,  and   that   visitor                                                                   
     destination   could   include  things   like   overnight                                                                   
     lodging, food  service, gift shop  and tours.   We found                                                                   
     that  this was compatible  with the  purposes for  which                                                                   
     the park was established, in  a finding that I signed in                                                                   
     June of  1998, but during  that process we  learned from                                                                   
     prospective  private partners -  who were interested  in                                                                   
     coming  into  Independence  Mine and  working  with  the                                                                   
     division to reuse the buildings  in Independence Mine as                                                                   
     a visitor  destination  - that there's  not enough  cash                                                                   
     flow in  the lodging and  food service alone  to support                                                                   
     the investment needed to adapt  and protect the historic                                                                   
     buildings.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Three things needed  to occur:  there needed  to be some                                                                   
     improvements to  the roads, and we've been  working with                                                                   
     the [Department  of Transportation & Public  Facilities]                                                                   
     and the  Mat-Su Borough  to make  that occur; the  state                                                                   
     needed to make  as much investment as they  could in the                                                                   
     area,  and  this summer  we  have  a TRAAK  [Trails  and                                                                   
     Recreational   Access  for   Alaska]  project  that   is                                                                   
     rebuilding  the elevated  walkway  to  the mine  tunnel,                                                                   
     rebuilding the  tunnels through the historical  building                                                                   
     and  providing  ADA [Americans  with  Disabilities  Act]                                                                   
     access  to visitors center;  and there  needed to  be an                                                                   
     opportunity for underground mine tours.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Underground  mine  tours  were  seen as  the  cash  flow                                                                   
     opportunity   to   make   this    whole   public-private                                                                   
     partnership work.   The problem is the state  didn't own                                                                   
     beyond the first few hundred  feet of the tunnel; Alaska                                                                   
     Hard Rock,  Incorporated, owned the tunnel,  but we knew                                                                   
     that they  were interested in  pursuing an exchange  for                                                                   
     property that  the state owns  on the Willow  Creek side                                                                   
     of  Hatcher  Pass that  Alaska  Hard Rock  is  currently                                                                   
     using for their mining operations.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     So,  we signed  a  preliminary exchange  agreement  last                                                                   
     June.   We spent last summer  doing the surveys  and the                                                                   
     appraisals; the  costs were split between the  state and                                                                   
     Alaska  Hard Rock,  and  in  the end,  the  state is  to                                                                   
     receive 118  acres of underground mine tunnel  valued at                                                                   
     $87,000,  and Alaska  Hard Rock will  receive 107  acres                                                                   
     valued at  $66,500.  And  because of the unequal  values                                                                   
     involved   in  this   exchange,   we  need   legislative                                                                   
     approval, and we would ask that today.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2314                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RUDY VETTER testified via teleconference from Fairbanks.  He                                                                    
stated that he supports HB 344.  He said there needs to be a lot                                                                
more diversification,  and more  state land needs  to be  put into                                                              
operation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2387                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  EUBANKS,   President,  Alaska   Hard  Rock,   Incorporated,                                                              
testified  via teleconference  from  Wasilla.   He  asked for  the                                                              
committee's support  on HB 344.   He pointed out that if  the bill                                                              
passes, it will allow [the company]  to protect a large investment                                                              
that it already  has in the area.   He stated that he  believes it                                                              
is good for both parties involved.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK closed public testimony on HB 344.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COWDERY  made  a   motion  to  move  HB  344  from                                                              
committee with individual recommendations  and the attached fiscal                                                              
note; he asked  for unanimous consent.  There  being no objection,                                                              
HB 344 was moved out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                 

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